Re: Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at 500K

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Posted By: Ray Pearcy


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I believe that the Zune software for windows is capable of playing h.264 but
I have not seen that WMP can.

Ray

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Troy Hanford Hold on there a second.... did you say WMP can play H.264 with a plug in.
> That would be huge, the inverse of flip4mac for WMV. What plug in does
> this? Has anyone tested this? Also, does it support very low-latency
> streaming? If it does, is there a live H.264 encoder?
>
> I wonder... with the right encoder and right WMP plug-in we might be able
> to deliver a number of cool video-conferencing centric solutions that until
> now have been the domain of Polycom, and to an extent Flash...
>
> Rich, others... thoughts....
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Mavrogeanes [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:03 PM
> To: StreamingMedia.com - Advanced
> Subject: RE: [advanced] Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at 500K
>
> Excellent, thank you: A certain version of a flash plugin in can play a
> MPEG-4 video file, just like Quicktime, or WMP (with plugin) can play a
> MPEG-4 video file. And like any video file, the quality depends on the care
> used to create the file.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Richter [mailto:]
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:05 AM
> To: StreamingMedia.com - Advanced
> Subject: Re: [advanced] Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at 500K
>
> The MPEG-4 was made using ffmpeg using a pretty refined set of
> parameters. It relates to Flash because that's how Fabio played it
> back. Of course you can play it back elsewhere but that wasn't the
> point. The point was to show what quality can be achieved when one
> puts in some thought and a good knowledge of video encoding techniques.
>
> Quote: " I use a mix of Ffmpeg, x264, Mencoder and Nero AAC. Here some
> parameters used:
> 5 reference frames, 5 B-frames, authomatic B-Frames, B-pyramid
> enabled, adaptive macroblock type, advanced Trellis on, Subq=7,
> advanced exagon search, deblocking filter with custom alpha e beta
> parameter, three pass encoding..."
>
> The point is more about H.264 and not about where it's being played
> back. Although it's nice that Flash can now play it :-)
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
> On 29 Feb 2008, at 13:39, Richard Mavrogeanes wrote:
>
> > I know that Adobe editing suite can output certain standard video
> > file types including MPEG-4 (although they don't do standard MPEG-2
> > TS). But I'm still confused as to the product made the subject
> > MPEG-4 file and how it relates to "Flash"?
> >
> >
> > /rich
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles [mailto:]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:47 PM
> > To: StreamingMedia.com - Advanced
> > Subject: RE: [advanced] Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at
> > 500K
> >
> > Believe it or not, Adobe's finally adopted a standard for video
> > (with a
> > strategic "carve-out" for streaming, since they don't want
> > interoperability
> > there).
> >
> > -- Charles
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Mavrogeanes [mailto:]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:15 PM
> > To: StreamingMedia.com - Advanced
> > Subject: RE: [advanced] Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at
> > 500K
> >
> > I'm confused. This is "just" a MPEG-4 pt 10 video file, nothing to
> > do with
> > Flash?
>
>
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I believe that the Zune software for windows is capable of playing h.264 but I have not seen that WMP can.
 
Ray
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Troy Hanford <> wrote:
Hold on there a second.... did you say WMP can play H.264 with a plug in.  That would be huge, the inverse of flip4mac for WMV.  What plug in does this?  Has anyone tested this?  Also, does it support very low-latency streaming?  If it does, is there a live H.264 encoder?
I wonder... with the right encoder and right WMP plug-in we might be able to deliver a number of cool video-conferencing centric solutions that until now have been the domain of Polycom, and to an extent Flash...
Rich, others... thoughts....
-----Original Message-----From: Richard Mavrogeanes [mailto:]


Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:03 PMTo: StreamingMedia.com - AdvancedSubject: RE: [advanced] Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at 500KExcellent, thank you:  A certain version of a flash plugin in can play a MPEG-4 video file, just like Quicktime, or WMP (with plugin) can play a MPEG-4 video file.  And like any video file, the quality depends on the care used to create the file.
-----Original Message-----From: Stefan Richter [mailto:]Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:05 AMTo: StreamingMedia.com - Advanced
Subject: Re: [advanced] Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at 500KThe MPEG-4 was made using ffmpeg using a pretty refined set ofparameters. It relates to Flash because that's how Fabio played itback. Of course you can play it back elsewhere but that wasn't the
point. The point was to show what quality can be achieved when oneputs in some thought and a good knowledge of video encoding techniques.Quote: " I use a mix of Ffmpeg, x264, Mencoder and Nero AAC. Here some
parameters used:5 reference frames, 5 B-frames, authomatic B-Frames, B-pyramidenabled, adaptive macroblock type, advanced Trellis on, Subq=7,advanced exagon search, deblocking filter with custom alpha e beta
parameter, three pass encoding..."The point is more about H.264 and not about where it's being playedback. Although it's nice that Flash can now play it :-)StefanOn 29 Feb 2008, at 13:39, Richard Mavrogeanes wrote:
> I know that Adobe editing suite can output certain standard video> file types including MPEG-4 (although they don't do standard MPEG-2> TS). But I'm still confused as to the product made the subject
> MPEG-4 file and how it relates to "Flash"?>>> /rich>>> -----Original Message-----> From: Charles [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:47 PM> To: StreamingMedia.com - Advanced> Subject: RE: [advanced] Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at> 500K>> Believe it or not, Adobe's finally adopted a standard for video
> (with a> strategic "carve-out" for streaming, since they don't want> interoperability> there).>> -- Charles>> -----Original Message-----> From: Richard Mavrogeanes [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:15 PM> To: StreamingMedia.com - Advanced> Subject: RE: [advanced] Has anyone seen this? H.264 Flash video at> 500K>> I'm confused. This is "just" a MPEG-4 pt 10 video file, nothing to
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