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As an alternative to Cleanner, I suggest that you take a look at Sorenson=
Squeeze (http://www.sorensonmedia.com). It has almost the same features of Clea=
nner but its faster and, from my experience, its more reliable.

De:"Matthew Quinn" Matthew.Q

Para:"StreamingMedia.com Advanced" > Mp2] WAS: =
/ accepting / Mov / MP4

> Yeh Im not a fan of Cleaner but I do Procoder and Carbon Coder which yo=
u can build a farm of machines to encode with and have lots of remote con=
trol. Expensive though.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j gur [mailto:]
> Sent: 26 April 2007 13:55
> To: StreamingMedia.com "Advanced"
> Subject: Re: [advanced] WM encoder hangs [Intermediate Format>> Mp2] WA=
S: / accepting / Mov / MP4
>
> We have build our own transcoding management software , that has some f=
eatures built in that are not available in these standard software tools,=
we are also clustering the process over multiple servers, i.e.
> we more control over the process...
>
> Btw I have seen Cleaner also fail on large Mpeg-2 inputs within automat=
ed work flows..
>
> Are there any Windows settings known that one could set to optimise the=
"consistency / reliability " of WM encoder ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Gural
>
> On 4/26/07, Matthew Quinn wrote:
> > "In our flow we do not want to use software like Cleaner, or Flipfact=
ory etc..."
> >
> > Just curious, why not? They would encode from your source file to wmv=
and mpeg2 at the same time, with watch folders, ftp afterwards, watermak=
ing, control over video and audio tweeks etc.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: j gur [mailto:]
> > Sent: 26 April 2007 13:39
> > To: StreamingMedia.com "Advanced"
> > Subject: Re: [advanced] WM encoder hangs [Intermediate Format>> Mp2] =

> > WAS: / accepting / Mov / MP4
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > The strategy of blocking certain input content doesn't seem to work.
> > One would guess that MS and others big players should by now understa=
nd how market dynamics on Internet work, i.e. an open approach seems to b=
e working better than a defensive one ?
> >
> > In our flow we do not want to use software like Cleaner, or Flipfacto=
ry etc...
> >
> > To create WMV files we need to convert to High Quality intermediate f=
iles, in our Case Mpeg-2. However, we note that some times the WMV encode=
r hangs on - large - Mpeg-2 intermediate files....
> >
> > Are there any settings to optimise the WM encoder for handeling / pro=
cessing Large Mpeg-2 files and prevent "sudden death"....
> >
> > We have of course a correct Mpeg-2 decoder filter (elcard) installed.=
.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gural
> >
> > On 4/24/07, Tim Koeleman wrote:
> > > Gural,
> > >
> > > If you must work with these filetypes consider frameserving from
> > > Avisynth -> Link2 -> AVI (in wrapper) -> WME. A pain to set up but =

> > > works ok for longer files.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:03 PM, j gur wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Could someone - perhaps from MS - comment on the reasons to
> > > > exclude
> > > > Mp4 and Mov files to be transcoded in windows media encoder 9..
> > > >
> > > > Are there any pataches that allow these file types to still be
> > > > imported ?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Gural
> > > >
> > > >

As an alternative to Cleanner, I suggest that you take a look at Sor=
enson Squeeze (http://www.sorensonmedia=
.com). It has almost the same features of Cleanner but its faster =
and, from my experience, its more reliable.
 

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"Matthew Quinn" =
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Para:
"StreamingMedia.=
com Advanced" <>

Cpia:

Data:
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14:17:22 +0100

Assunto:
RE: [advanced] W=
M encoder hangs [Intermediate Format>> Mp2] WAS: / accepting / Mov =
/ MP4
> Yeh Im not a fan of Cleaner but I do Procoder and Carbon Coder =
which you can build a farm of machines to encode with and have lots of re=
mote control. Expensive though.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: j gur [mailto:]
> Sent: 26 April 2007 13:55
> To: StreamingMedia.com "Advanced"
> Subject: Re: [advanced] WM encoder hangs [Intermediate Format&g=
t;> Mp2] WAS: / accepting / Mov / MP4
>
> We have build our own transcoding management software , that ha=
s some features built in that are not available in these standard softwar=
e tools, we are also clustering the process over multiple servers, i.e.
> we more control over the process...
>
> Btw I have seen Cleaner also fail on large Mpeg-2 inputs within=
automated work flows..
>
> Are there any Windows settings known that one could set to opti=
mise the "consistency / reliability " of WM encoder ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Gural
>
> On 4/26/07, Matthew Quinn wrote:
> > "In our flow we do not want to use software like Cleaner, =
or Flipfactory etc..."
> >
> > Just curious, why not? They would encode from your source =
file to wmv and mpeg2 at the same time, with watch folders, ftp afterward=
s, watermaking, control over video and audio tweeks etc.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: j gur [mailto:]
> > Sent: 26 April 2007 13:39
> > To: StreamingMedia.com "Advanced"
> > Subject: Re: [advanced] WM encoder hangs [Intermediate For=
mat>> Mp2]
> > WAS: / accepting / Mov / MP4
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > The strategy of blocking certain input content doesn't see=
m to work.
> > One would guess that MS and others big players should by n=
ow understand how market dynamics on Internet work, i.e. an open approach=
seems to be working better than a defensive one ?
> >
> > In our flow we do not want to use software like Cleaner, o=
r Flipfactory etc...
> >
> > To create WMV files we need to convert to High Quality int=
ermediate files, in our Case Mpeg-2. However, we note that some times the=
WMV encoder hangs on - large - Mpeg-2 intermediate files....
> >
> > Are there any settings to optimise the WM encoder for hand=
eling / processing Large Mpeg-2 files and prevent "sudden death"....
> >
> > We have of course a correct Mpeg-2 decoder filter (elcard)=
installed..
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gural
> >
> > On 4/24/07, Tim Koeleman wrote:
> > > Gural,
> > >
> > > If you must work with these filetypes consider frames=
erving from
> > > Avisynth -> Link2 -> AVI (in wrapper) -> WME=
. A pain to set up but
> > > works ok for longer files.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > On Apr 24, 2007, at 4:03 PM, j gur wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Could someone - perhaps from MS - comment on the=
reasons to
> > > > exclude
> > > > Mp4 and Mov files to be transcoded in windows me=
dia encoder 9..
> > > >
> > > > Are there any pataches that allow these file typ=
es to still be
> > > > imported ?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Gural
> > > >
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