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<![CDATA[Streaming Media Forums - All Forums]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/ Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:23:45 -0500 MyBB <![CDATA[RE: h264 vs vp6]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:18:24 -0500 Dave http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html
Have you taken a look at:
http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/c...g-a-codec/

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Have you taken a look at:
http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/c...g-a-codec/

]]> <![CDATA[RE: h264 vs vp6]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:00:50 -0500 Dave http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html

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]]> <![CDATA[RE: h264 vs vp6]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:25:26 -0500 cata12 http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html
Have a look at: http://support.on2.com/h264_faq.php ,it's a good article about h264 versus vp6. Basicly what is your project about? What do you want to achieve in terms of video quality? 248k is a bit low for live streaming if we think that HD starts from 1mb.

Regards,
Catalin

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Have a look at: http://support.on2.com/h264_faq.php ,it's a good article about h264 versus vp6. Basicly what is your project about? What do you want to achieve in terms of video quality? 248k is a bit low for live streaming if we think that HD starts from 1mb.

Regards,
Catalin

]]> <![CDATA[h264 vs vp6]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:53:09 -0500 trini_tech http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html
i am streaming at 248k at 15fps.

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i am streaming at 248k at 15fps.

]]> <![CDATA[RE: h264 vs vp6]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:04:27 -0500 trini_tech http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10711.html

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]]> <![CDATA[RE: some advice please :)]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10710.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:45:59 -0500 Dave http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10710.html
What's your upstream broadband capacity between the encoder and the new server ? Any contention ratios or is it guaranteed ? Tested it ? Tested it again ? Testing it from now till the event ?

What bitrate(s) are you planning on encoding your stream(s) at ? 100Mbps will get used up pretty quick with 100+ connections.

There's a load test simulator for WMS which you could/should use to test the server prior to the event.

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What's your upstream broadband capacity between the encoder and the new server ? Any contention ratios or is it guaranteed ? Tested it ? Tested it again ? Testing it from now till the event ?

What bitrate(s) are you planning on encoding your stream(s) at ? 100Mbps will get used up pretty quick with 100+ connections.

There's a load test simulator for WMS which you could/should use to test the server prior to the event.

]]> <![CDATA[some advice please :)]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10710.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:03:53 -0500 vade http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10710.html
this weekend i will be live streaming a live event to a possible audience of hundreds could be more.

i would like some advice on if my setup can handle this.

i have just been given access to a new dedicated server with this hardware:

network 100MB up and down
Quad Core Xeon
2.4 GHz / 1066MHz
4GB dual channel Ram

we have another server where the website itself is hosted my line of thought is that if i have the website on the existing server and stream and broadcast using the new one that will help with any load problems.

my stream setup is:

camera--> high spec PC with windows media encoder --> broadband --> new server with windows media services running --> the world!

if i put the webpage on the old server and then embed a publishing point from the new server then the stream thro the publishing point will only relie on the the new server. correct?

i know this all sounds like i am out of my depth or w/e but theres a lot riding on this and i want to make sure i get this right.

thanks in advance for any help

vade

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this weekend i will be live streaming a live event to a possible audience of hundreds could be more.

i would like some advice on if my setup can handle this.

i have just been given access to a new dedicated server with this hardware:

network 100MB up and down
Quad Core Xeon
2.4 GHz / 1066MHz
4GB dual channel Ram

we have another server where the website itself is hosted my line of thought is that if i have the website on the existing server and stream and broadcast using the new one that will help with any load problems.

my stream setup is:

camera--> high spec PC with windows media encoder --> broadband --> new server with windows media services running --> the world!

if i put the webpage on the old server and then embed a publishing point from the new server then the stream thro the publishing point will only relie on the the new server. correct?

i know this all sounds like i am out of my depth or w/e but theres a lot riding on this and i want to make sure i get this right.

thanks in advance for any help

vade

]]> <![CDATA[RE: some advice please :)]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10710.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:50:00 -0500 vade http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10710.html
i like the ideal of doing a load test on the WMS server could you possibly provide a link Smile

thanks for coming back to me

btw is using windows media player as the embeded player the standard way togo or is there a better player (flash or something) which can be embedded?

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i like the ideal of doing a load test on the WMS server could you possibly provide a link Smile

thanks for coming back to me

btw is using windows media player as the embeded player the standard way togo or is there a better player (flash or something) which can be embedded?

]]> <![CDATA[RE: Need Some Advice]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:52:08 -0400 Dave http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html
Choice of equipment will depend on the design of your set - have you done any ground work there ?

Basically you are going to need to consider lighting, audio capture and video capture and balance you budget between them.

Depending on what sort material your artists are going to be demonstrating and how this will be done, will affect the kit you are going to initially want to invest in.

A good starting point might be VASST's 'Video for the Web - what you need to know' DVD as it takes you through a range of equipment you might want to consider and highlights some of the pitfalls of web video.

Also check out some of Jan Ozer's videos from past StreamingMedia conferences on StreamingMedia.com and also his website at: http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/c...roduction/

Dan Rayburn published a series of "Hands On" guides covering various aspects of streaming Media which are well worth reading.

Steve Mack's Streaming Media bible is well worth a read as it has a good introduction to production, even though it's a bit dated now.

CMP's DV Expert series is good for more in depth detail on specific aspects e.g. Jay Rose's Great Sound for Digital Audio. (he also has his own website)

BBC Training have some free online tutorials on production tips as well http://www.bbctraining.com/onlineCourses.asp

Dave

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Choice of equipment will depend on the design of your set - have you done any ground work there ?

Basically you are going to need to consider lighting, audio capture and video capture and balance you budget between them.

Depending on what sort material your artists are going to be demonstrating and how this will be done, will affect the kit you are going to initially want to invest in.

A good starting point might be VASST's 'Video for the Web - what you need to know' DVD as it takes you through a range of equipment you might want to consider and highlights some of the pitfalls of web video.

Also check out some of Jan Ozer's videos from past StreamingMedia conferences on StreamingMedia.com and also his website at: http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/c...roduction/

Dan Rayburn published a series of "Hands On" guides covering various aspects of streaming Media which are well worth reading.

Steve Mack's Streaming Media bible is well worth a read as it has a good introduction to production, even though it's a bit dated now.

CMP's DV Expert series is good for more in depth detail on specific aspects e.g. Jay Rose's Great Sound for Digital Audio. (he also has his own website)

BBC Training have some free online tutorials on production tips as well http://www.bbctraining.com/onlineCourses.asp

Dave

]]> <![CDATA[RE: Need Some Advice]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:21:50 -0500 Dave http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html
Cheaper cameras often produce a lot of noise as they have to amplify the signal levels coming from the imager device. The more available light to start with, then the less amplification required, and the less noise.

Attention to lighting can also produce a better quality encodes/lower bit rates, by controlling contrast and shadows.

This can reduce the amount of work that the encoder has to do, once again allowing you to keep the costs down, and push quality up.

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Cheaper cameras often produce a lot of noise as they have to amplify the signal levels coming from the imager device. The more available light to start with, then the less amplification required, and the less noise.

Attention to lighting can also produce a better quality encodes/lower bit rates, by controlling contrast and shadows.

This can reduce the amount of work that the encoder has to do, once again allowing you to keep the costs down, and push quality up.

]]> <![CDATA[RE: Need Some Advice]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:20:03 -0500 cata12 http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html
As Dave said, think about a good capture card (I recommend you IntensityPro from BlackMagicDesign), then a good video camera (I use Canon Vixia HF10). HDMI connexion is the best here especially
if you want to stream HD quality. Also make sure you make an rough estimation about the audience's size because this reflects the bandwidth spent. If you have a big audience get a package with more GB included.
Have a look on http://www.blinkotv.com also. It may help you decide the solution to go with. Another question is: will your viewers pay in order to access your stream or this is a free service ?

Best regards
Catalin

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As Dave said, think about a good capture card (I recommend you IntensityPro from BlackMagicDesign), then a good video camera (I use Canon Vixia HF10). HDMI connexion is the best here especially
if you want to stream HD quality. Also make sure you make an rough estimation about the audience's size because this reflects the bandwidth spent. If you have a big audience get a package with more GB included.
Have a look on http://www.blinkotv.com also. It may help you decide the solution to go with. Another question is: will your viewers pay in order to access your stream or this is a free service ?

Best regards
Catalin

]]> <![CDATA[Need Some Advice]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:53:14 -0400 samcar http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html
I am looking for a little advice here. I am new to streaming media and I consider myself to be somewhat tech savy (I pick it up descently). I am looking into setting up a channel on livestream. I am going to be producing a show where local/regional artists can show thier work, discuss it, and give a demo of their technique. So, my question is what kind of equipment should I be getting? - My budget isn't that much so beginer/used/inexpensive is the route I would like to take.

Thanks,
Samuel

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I am looking for a little advice here. I am new to streaming media and I consider myself to be somewhat tech savy (I pick it up descently). I am looking into setting up a channel on livestream. I am going to be producing a show where local/regional artists can show thier work, discuss it, and give a demo of their technique. So, my question is what kind of equipment should I be getting? - My budget isn't that much so beginer/used/inexpensive is the route I would like to take.

Thanks,
Samuel

]]> <![CDATA[RE: Need Some Advice]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:34:36 -0500 samcar http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10709.html
Luckily, lighting should already be taken care of - we are an arts center with artist studios and will be using one of them for our set. We have various spot lights (halogen) available that are for gallery use, but can be reallocated for this use.

As for your budget question: It is mostly a matter of "Here boss, this our cheapest option"

Thanks again, especially for those links.

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Luckily, lighting should already be taken care of - we are an arts center with artist studios and will be using one of them for our set. We have various spot lights (halogen) available that are for gallery use, but can be reallocated for this use.

As for your budget question: It is mostly a matter of "Here boss, this our cheapest option"

Thanks again, especially for those links.

]]> <![CDATA[Introduce about branding your web FLV player with image]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10708.html Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:12:43 -0400 stephenz http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10708.html Introduction:
Image Watermark Plugin offers solution to add image onto web Flash video player as watermark. With it, you can easily brand and copyright your web player with an image (PNG, JPG, gif) or a SWF file.

Key Features:
Adding a watermark with transparency and link at random position of web player
Adding an animated watermark (SWF file) with sound onto web player
Watermark added with this plugin can work as an ad over player

Limitation of free trial version:
Having a link is on the watermark to our website

About Moyea Web Player:
It is an easy-to-use FLV player creator, with which, customizing skinning streaming FLV player and FLV player (flash video player) for website only needs a few mouse-clicks. And the created player can be easily edited via flashvars code.
Its official website is: http://www.playerdiy.com/

Where it appears:
After installed, this plugin will appear on the following interface of Moyea Web Player.
[Image: image-watermark1.jpg]

Step 1: Add a video into Moyea Web Player on “Media” interface.

Step 2: Click the image watermark pluin on “Addons” tab panel on “Template” interface, and then click “ [Image: threedots.gif]

” button.

Click “browser” button to input an image into Moyea Web Player, and set the position at where it will show. Notice: 1. If the watermark is a SWF file, please check the “SWF” option. 2.The value of X-coordinate and X-coordinate can be a negative number. When both values are 0, the watermark will appear at the left top of player.
[Image: image-watermark3.jpg]

Step 3: Set the value of “Video list style” is none to remove the playlist and the embed code at the right of player
[Image: image-watermark4.jpg]

Step 4: Click “Publish” button on “Publish” interface. Then we could get a web flash video player which is the same as the above demo.

]]> Introduction:
Image Watermark Plugin offers solution to add image onto web Flash video player as watermark. With it, you can easily brand and copyright your web player with an image (PNG, JPG, gif) or a SWF file.

Key Features:
Adding a watermark with transparency and link at random position of web player
Adding an animated watermark (SWF file) with sound onto web player
Watermark added with this plugin can work as an ad over player

Limitation of free trial version:
Having a link is on the watermark to our website

About Moyea Web Player:
It is an easy-to-use FLV player creator, with which, customizing skinning streaming FLV player and FLV player (flash video player) for website only needs a few mouse-clicks. And the created player can be easily edited via flashvars code.
Its official website is: http://www.playerdiy.com/

Where it appears:
After installed, this plugin will appear on the following interface of Moyea Web Player.
[Image: image-watermark1.jpg]

” button.

Step 3: Set the value of “Video list style” is none to remove the playlist and the embed code at the right of player
[Image: image-watermark4.jpg]

Step 4: Click “Publish” button on “Publish” interface. Then we could get a web flash video player which is the same as the above demo.

]]> <![CDATA[RE: Any companies alive still?]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10707.html Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:42:06 -0400 wcaulfield http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10707.html Started with a concept, hoped to devise a business plan later.

But seriously, what are you trying to get done. Probably a hundred vendors on the forums and on the list that could cover it.

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But seriously, what are you trying to get done. Probably a hundred vendors on the forums and on the list that could cover it.

]]> <![CDATA[RE: Any companies alive still?]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10707.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:45:52 -0500 cata12 http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10707.html
I am just curious, what was your experiene with them?

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I am just curious, what was your experiene with them?

]]> <![CDATA[Any companies alive still?]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10707.html Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:10:53 -0400 pconradt http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10707.html

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]]> <![CDATA[server utilization profile]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10706.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:40:20 -0400 floyd http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10706.html 1) your type of media streaming
2) your server spec
3) business/hobby?
4) h/w utilization (CPU, memory, network utilization)

I appreciate any feed back or pointer to the right direction to obtain this kind of data.

Thanks

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2) your server spec
3) business/hobby?
4) h/w utilization (CPU, memory, network utilization)

I appreciate any feed back or pointer to the right direction to obtain this kind of data.

Thanks

]]> <![CDATA[RE: Video Streaming]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10705.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:52:49 -0400 TimT http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10705.html Hi

From experience I suspect that you are likely to hit problems (excuse me for stating the obvious but.....with live you only get one shot).

If you are talking about 500 concurrent viewers, assuming a regular hosting co will suffice is very dangerous. When you read the small print you typically find that whilst the SLA states 40Gb of transfer, it won't be provisioned to be used in a single 1hr chunk... (more like an aggregate shared by multiple customers over the month)

For delivery you would typically be better of using a CDN designed for live traffic (do contact me off list).

For encoding you would reduce the risk of problems by using a hardware encoder rather than a Macbook & delivering the stream in Flash or wmv. This will enable you to serve a high number of both PC & MAC viewers without getting bogged down in tedious support issues.

Lastly the IP connection to the streaming servers..... Ideally you should have a non contended link as contention in ADSL lines is one of the most common oversights associated with unsuccessful webcasts. Where dedicated bandwidth is not available we typically use IP satellite links with CIR set approximately 20% above the streams bit rate e.g. get a 600K CIR if you are streaming at 512K. Depending on which part of the world the event is being produced we may be able to point you in the direction of IP satellite provider (off list)

Good Luck!

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From experience I suspect that you are likely to hit problems (excuse me for stating the obvious but.....with live you only get one shot).

If you are talking about 500 concurrent viewers, assuming a regular hosting co will suffice is very dangerous. When you read the small print you typically find that whilst the SLA states 40Gb of transfer, it won't be provisioned to be used in a single 1hr chunk... (more like an aggregate shared by multiple customers over the month)

For delivery you would typically be better of using a CDN designed for live traffic (do contact me off list).

For encoding you would reduce the risk of problems by using a hardware encoder rather than a Macbook & delivering the stream in Flash or wmv. This will enable you to serve a high number of both PC & MAC viewers without getting bogged down in tedious support issues.

Lastly the IP connection to the streaming servers..... Ideally you should have a non contended link as contention in ADSL lines is one of the most common oversights associated with unsuccessful webcasts. Where dedicated bandwidth is not available we typically use IP satellite links with CIR set approximately 20% above the streams bit rate e.g. get a 600K CIR if you are streaming at 512K. Depending on which part of the world the event is being produced we may be able to point you in the direction of IP satellite provider (off list)

Good Luck!

]]> <![CDATA[Video Streaming]]> http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10705.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:15:50 -0400 a13wes http://forums.streamingmedia.com/thread-10705.html
I'm looking to broadcast a live 60 minute conference/webinar, It'll be streamed to no more than 500 viewers, probably with a low quality & high quality stream.

Is there any tips anyone can recommend for setting this up?

I've been looking at hosting etc, as I know it can be very bandwidth intensive. I have found a hosting company that normally offers shoutcast and game server services (So I would assume their servers would be capable?) and was thinking that a package with 40gb transfer a month would be more than suffice, however I have asked them if their servers would be up to the task.

Is there anything else I should be taking into consideration?

For a setup.. I have a camera man and sound technician, so was thinking a macbook pro set up with an application such as quicktime media server to broadcast to a http address? The internet connection is 300k+.

Is this the best way to achieve this or am I missing something?

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I'm looking to broadcast a live 60 minute conference/webinar, It'll be streamed to no more than 500 viewers, probably with a low quality & high quality stream.

Is there any tips anyone can recommend for setting this up?

I've been looking at hosting etc, as I know it can be very bandwidth intensive. I have found a hosting company that normally offers shoutcast and game server services (So I would assume their servers would be capable?) and was thinking that a package with 40gb transfer a month would be more than suffice, however I have asked them if their servers would be up to the task.

Is there anything else I should be taking into consideration?

For a setup.. I have a camera man and sound technician, so was thinking a macbook pro set up with an application such as quicktime media server to broadcast to a http address? The internet connection is 300k+.

Is this the best way to achieve this or am I missing something?

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